Tuesday, January 13, 2015

DEATH BATTLE: Kirby vs Majin Buu - Facts over Fanboyism



Hi, everyone. This is Tatsuranger. And with my first actual blog (aside from the intro), I decided to hit the ground running with one of the most recent event the in Pop Culture world. This is my re....
EVERYTHING (Response, Review, Retort,etc) to Screwattack's Death Battle: Kirby vs Majin B
uu.

 First off, I want to say the following:
  • I am a fan of the Dragonball series.
  • I am a fan of the Kirby series.
  • I wanted to make a video review, but due to personal, technical and financial problems, and I unable to make one, but I wanted to get my voice out and not leave this lying down.
  • I am NOT a member of Screwattack, or know any of them. They are in Texas, I am in New York.



Now, many people (Mostly DBZ fans or "fanboys") have made their own rebuttal claiming Screwattack is "Bias" against Dragonball Z and anime in general. All the youtubers who made these videos responding (or ranting) against Screwattack are the following:

ForneverWorld

RhymeStyle

JaymesHanson



 Qaaman & Duct4pe



MyOpinions333



Double4anime


 



Roaring Thunder Project




Phillip Rocca





Mobile Otaku HD



Sidekicks912




And finally TheSaiyan17.....





And anyone using MUGEN to prove something... And after watching every single video (got to do something after work) I think it is safe that every single one of you guys are FREAKING PATHETIC!!! Nothing personal, but Seriously. First off, who cares? it's no big deal. Second, the Death Battle was for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY, and third, not only are you guys freaking pathetic, you are freaking hypocrites! You claim to not be "DBZ fanboys" or "DBZ tards" (Seriously, didn't know that was a thing) then end up completely contradicting yourselves and shooting yourselves in the foot worse than Plaxico Burress! You bitch and moan about Screwattack being "bias" and "hating DBZ and anime and burying Majin Buu and his skills", yet you are doing the EXACT same thing to Kirby.

There WONT be any of that here. I will be doing a 100% non-biased comparison between Kirby and Buu, and I will also criticize Screwattack for Overselling Kirby, as some of his feats are shady as well. It will come to 6 categories: Speed, Strength, Ki/Energy Manipulation, Experience, Skills/Techniques, and Durability using the same method from Goku vs Superman. No, I will NOT be using that "Gravity Formula" crap, I will be using Science. All to find out if you, the DBZ fans were right or if Screwattack was right. But first, a few factual statements:


1. SUPER SMASH BROS. IS NON-CANON!!

This is a response to Mobile Otaku HD, Phillip Rocca, Roaring Thunder Project's pathetic excuse for a agrument. To build Buu up, they must shoot Kirby down using Super Smash Bros (1, Melee, Brawl, 4) creating some the most idiotic rants ever.

@Phillip Rocca, are you really that dumb? you must be. Because no one (even the some of the dudes mention here) is stupid enough to use a FREAKING FAN-MADE, NON-CANON, ONLINE GAME as proof that one can beat the other.

Super Smash Bros. is non-canon, and has NO effect on the Kirby lore, Mario lore, Pokemon lore, DK lore, Zelda lore, etc. In fact, No crossover fighting games are canon. Do you are remember in the comics where Spider-man was bragging about how he beat Ryu? or the Avengers bragging about beating the Darkstalkers, or Akuma saying he beat Galactus? NO!! because it's non-canon. Kirby is no exception. When he fights a fellow Nintendo All-star, it's doesn't accurately describe the ACTUAL Kirby lore. When Kirby is fighting Pikachu and inhales him, instead of becoming Spark Kirby, he becomes "Pikachu" Kirby, or when he inhales Little Mac from the Punch-out series, instead of becoming Fighter Kirby, he become "Little Mac" Kirby, and so on, and so on. It's NOT canon. Fighting games where everyone can beat everyone doesn't count. The same goes for DBZ. A game where Buu can be beaten by Yamcha is NOT accurate.

2. DOUBLE STANDARDS AND CRAPPING ON KIRBY'S FEATS!!

What do I mean by double standards? Some on the people here like Rhymestlye, Duct4pe and TheSaiyan17 choose to completely crap all over Kirby's feats as mention on Death Battle, whining about the consistency between Kirby's game and the anime.... If I'm not mistaken, didn't Screwattack do the same thing with another world famous cutesy Nintendo mascot? oh, yeah. Pikachu from Pokemon. Death Battle listed one of Pikachu feats "Defeating Legendary Pokemon" like Dragonite and Latios in the anime, while in the video games, a EV trained Pikachu wouldn't stand a chance. You can aruge that In-game mechanics and out-game mechanics apply here, but it really doesn't! Remember, this is the exact same Pikachu that defeated said Legendary Pokemon, but loses to a FREAKING PANPOUR in the Unova Saga. yet no complaints about consistency on that.

@Rhymestlye and Duct4pe. I love how you say that Kirby's feat of Throwing a monster into the sun with Frying Pan is "Bad writing"....Yeah, you DO know you are defending a show that has a big list of inconsistencies..Isn't THAT bad writing?

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_inconsistencies

3. SCREWATTACK NOT USING SUPER BUU!!

This is one of the few things from the DBZ fanboys I agree with. Where was Super Buu? In case most have forgotten, and I think they did, Super Buu was ONLY created when the Good Buu shot his Chocolate Beam at Evil Buu and Evil Buu reflected it back at Good Buu Turning HIM into chocolate, and Evil Buu ate him, turning into Super Buu. I assume Screwattack forgot that part, or knew that and skipped that due to time limits or just plain screwed up...Super Buu is one of my favorite! of course, without Gotenks, Piccolo, or Ultimate Gohan to absorb, what good is just plain Super Buu?

That's basically it.....anyway. Time to begin. First Speed.


SPEED

I mentioned using the same method from Goku vs Superman. That means pinpointing their Top everything. With Goku reaching his highest based on his Super Saiyan forms, and Superman reaching his highest based on how close he is to the Sun, we will be doing the same for Kirby and Majin Buu.




Common belief and DBZ fanboys states that in both base forms, Majin Buu is faster than Kirby...No doubt about it that is true. But if we applied that logic to Goku and Superman, it would be crap. Death Battle and fans of both series calculate to their top speed based on the fastest they have both been known to go. and we will do the same for Kirby and Majin Buu.

In base form, Kirby is fast enough to run on water....That is true. In the Kirby anime episode 4: A Dark and Stormy Knight, (Anime debut of Kracko) Kracko zaps Kind Dedede's ride, causing it to fly in midair and then zaps the drawbridge to his castle, breaking it and causing everyone to fall in the moat. Kirby ran fast enough to skim across the water and get over to the horizon within seconds, but that's NOT his top speed.

Speaking of which, I like how TheSaiyan17, in his video, completely craps over Kirby's base running feats, and mentioning Goku doing it long ago. Don't get me wrong, in a way he's right. In the Dragonball world, running on water isn't much of a feat, especially when Goku did it back when he was a kid back in Dragonball, but that's the problem there....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOKU, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT KIRBY AND MAJIN BUU!!! That argument is straight-up irrelevant. So what about Majin Buu's top speed?

I know that the top speed of the DBZ characters have come into question for many years, but it has never been answered, and NO! Piccolo saying Raditz moving faster than light doesn't count because it's not true. It's a bone-headed mistranslation on the Ocean Dub of DBZ. This falls into Buu's speed and durability. Everyone mentions how Majin Buu fought, survived and beat Goku when he was in Super Saiyan 3, right? Only that's not true.....in a way. Yes, Buu did ACTUALLY beat Goku, but there are Four reasons why. These are taken from the DBZ encyclopedia:


On Super Saiyan 3:

The form uses a Saiyan's full potential with power extracted from every drop of their blood.[8] Where the third stage of Super Saiyan's purpose was 100% utilization of physical stamina, the purpose of the Super Saiyan 3 transformation is to increase the utilization of ki, and as a result, the transformation rapidly consumes the energy of the user. This notably leads to extended levels of fatigue, even long after powering down. If the user has died and is not encumbered by a living body, this strain is reduced somewhat, and additional energy depletion is minimized (such as in Goku's case during his first fight with Majin Buu).
On the way Goku was using it:


The battle starts off at a quick pace as Goku demonstrates his new powers. Goku once again holds back his efforts, because he knows that it is not his job to save the Earth anymore and he wants to let the new generation, Goten and Trunks, take over for the planet's protection. During this battle, Goku is able to obtain the upper hand, but cannot cause any permanent damage to Majin Buu, who regenerates from his every attack and even shocks Goku by performing one of Vegeta's techniques. After a while, Goku feels that enough time has passed and decides to return to the lookout. Goku thus succeeds in giving Goten and Trunks the sufficient time for their training.

On Ki:

 When fighters gather ki, they are able to gain enhanced strength, speed, endurance, and can increase the power of their attacks to inflict greater damage to opponents. Normally, the more the ki is increased, the harder it is to control, so ki control is also important.

On their second fight:

As seen in his fight, Kid Buu's power is comparable to that of Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Though Goku claims that he can beat Kid Buu when fighting in his Super Saiyan 3 form at 100% power, he could not maintain his full power due to the form's ki consumption and thus is unable to take down Kid Buu using the form, even stating that his attacks have stopped having effects on Kid Buu towards the end of their battle and that Kid Buu is stronger than he could have ever imagined.

Seriously, not to take anything away from Goku, especially achieving this form, but the proof is in the pudding. When Goku goes Super Saiyan 3, it requires a demanding amount of Ki. Ki, which increases the speed, strength, and endurance, but in SSJ3 Goku's case it does the exact opposite to the extreme. And yeah I know Combat Speed and Travel Speed are two different things and Goku's infamous Instant Transmission techique isn't a combat move nor is it proof Goku can move at the speed of light. As awesome as it was, Wiz was right in the Goku vs Superman mention of this move, FUNimation screwed it up. He doesn't move by light, that was a translation error, he moves instantly, it's basically teleportation.

Point is Majin Buu (Kid) could ONLY keep up with SSJ3 Goku because of the setbacks of SSJ3, and it is never indicated if Majin Buu (either forms) can move at speeds faster than light. so in a way, Boomstick was right.

As for Kirby, he isn't that fast in base form, especially when both compared to Majin Buu AND using speed-based copy abilities, like Wheel and Jet. However, on the Warp Star, his personal cruiser, he can ride up to speeds faster than light, and for some reason, it is BOTH kirby's travel AND combat speed.

From the trophy in Super Smash Bros. Brawl:


A warp-speed item. In the Kirby series, Warp Stars are used to move between stages. In Smash Bros., they're ultrafast attack items that zoom up and down to devastate anyone they hit. You can shift your landing spot by moving the Control Stick left or right during your descent. Choose your target and hang on! Don't overshoot the mark and plummet off the stage, though.

First of all, I know I said SSB is Non-Canon, cause it is! This statement above is the descriptions on how it is used in the Kirby lore. Second of all, The Warp star is NOT a mechanical vehicle, it is created by Kirby's own energy, and the fact that Kirby keeps destroying it again and again to kill enemies is a proof that Kirby keeps regenerating it, no to mention that Kirby's own heart is actually a star, as shown in "Mass attack". But the biggest proof that Kirby's Warp star is created from his own energy is in Kirby's dreamland 3, where he jumped few times, an aura encircled him, and the Warp star appeared out of his body.

And Third of all, Warp Speed, or Warp-drive, best describes a spacecraft equipped with a warp drive may travel at apparent speeds greater than that of light by many orders of magnitude, while circumventing the relativistic problem of time dilation. In contrast to many other FTL technologies, such as a jump drive or hyper drive, the warp drive does not permit instantaneous (or near instantaneous) travel between two points but involves a measurable passage of time.

In short, using the same methods as Goku and Superman, without doubt AND/OR fanboyism, Kirby IS faster than Majin Buu...miles even.

SPEED goes to Kirby!

Next is Strength!

STRENGTH

First, lets get something straight here. All the arguments I've heard from these whiners is this category is all the freaking same: Majin Buu can destroy planets! Majin Buu can destroy planets! Majin Buu can destroy planets! SO. FREAKING. WHAT!! THAT IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT IN ANY SENSE OF THE WORD!!! AT ALL!! Because not ONLY because past and future Death Battle participants can do it, some even BETTER than Majin Buu, some can even do it while on the can, but Buu's opponent, Kirby, DESTROYS planet-destroyers all the freaking time. He even destroyed a planet himself once. (even though non-canon).

Kirby as shown multiple feats of strength, such as being able to crack a planet in half and throwing the frying pan into the sun. In the megaton punch mini-game, Kirby’s strength can reach up to 201 mT. Since Death Battle demonstrated that pop star has similar properties to earth and that the necessary force to destroy earth is estimated to be 53 quadrillion megatons, it is likely that Kirby’s strength is measured in quadrillion megatons.

Buu is speculated to be the strongest villain in the DBZ universe (besides Beerus) but he doesn’t really have any definitive strength feats. If anything, he was able to keep up with SSJ3 Goku, who AGAIN I MENTIONED, only did so because to the negative side effects of Super Saiyan 3. However, So kid buu’s maximum’s strength is in between 16 000 tons and 160 000 tons. Super buu’s strength should be of (16 000 or 160 000) x 1.75 = (28 000 or 280 000) tons. Even if he was only using 201 megatons since one megaton is equal to a million tons of force. That crack was 201 megatons, which is the power of a city-busting nuke at best. But Buu's greatest feats of strength was destroying the Earth.

But as it turns out, "Strength" means the Physical power one can deliver through brute force! Even though Buu's ability to destroy earth with the Planet Burst attack was something amazing, it doesn't fall into the actual meaning of the word "Strength", if anything, using energy manipulation attacks DOESN"T equal being the World's Strongest Man...or pink, rubbery boy in this case.

In the end, even if Super Buu strength is of, say, 280 000 tons, it doesn’t really matter since Kirby’s strength surpasses him even if he was only using 201 megatons since one megaton is equal to a million tons of force.

STRENGTH goes to Kirby!

Next is Ki/Energy Manipulation!

KI/ENERGY MANIPULATION


No doubt about it, Majin Buu excels in THIS category. He, like all Dragonball Z characters, are masters at Ki/Energy Manipulation attacks and Buu is NO different. Planet Burst, Innocence Beam, Kamehameha Wave, and the famous Chocolate Beam. This list is more than this, but I will discuss it during the Skill/Technique later.

Kirby, on the other hand, has some experience in Ki/Energy Manipulation, but only when he's Fighter Kirby and using those rip-off Street Fighter moves. Kirby was able to blow up a portion of the moon with his Star Rod. Other than that, he's no good in this category at all.

Although it is not explicitly shown in the anime or manga, it is HEAVILY implied that Buu’s destructive power surpasses ALL Villains in DBZ History (Expect Beerus). His greatest energy projection feat in the series is to generate enough energy to destroy the earth ten times.


KI/ENERGY MANIPULATION goes to Majin Buu

Next is Skill/Technique!

SKILL/TECHNIQUE


I've been waiting for this. We will displacing every attack both Kirby and Buu have been known to do in their Canon series.

First off, Roaring Thunder Project said the following in his video, which proves my point:








 Kirby can reach Speeds higher than Buu but only when he's on the Warp Star but rarely uses it in combat, also SCREWATTACK blew his inhale and exhale ability WAY out of proportion, his inhale resembled that of a Vacuum Cleaner and has seen most performing only being able to inhale stone blocks and many enemies at once, not that of a Building, a City, or an object the size of Buu's Death Ball,



And TheSaiyan17 did this category on his video, that Majin Buu has more skills and techniques that it would take a lot time to list them all......Yeah, Funny thing about Research. It really works. Because that statement is BS as hell. Majin Buu doesn't have that much attacks. The DBZ encyclopedia DOES have an insanely long list of the attacks Majin Buu have been known to do....only one problem, A MAJORITY OF THEM (75%) WERE FROM NON-CANON VIDEO GAMES. All forms of Majin Buu share some traits of attacks, such as Ki blast, Absorption, Body Manipulation and Regeneration, Kamehameha, Healing, Vanishing Beam, and then there are the attacks each Buu can do on their own.

Majin Buu can do 25 attacks as Fat Buu.

adding the attacks Kid Buu can do, it would go up to 39.

and Evil Buu having only 3 personal moves.

And with Super Buu, it can go up to 63

Altogether, Majin Buu can learn 66 attacks.

As for Kirby, It's pathetic that people like Roaring Thunder Project are putting down Kirby's abilities, saying his attacks AREN'T HIS OWN.....aren't his own......
uh........can someone help me? because if I remember correctly, and I do because I do that thing the kids are doing called RESEARCH...the Kamehameha wasn't Majin Buu's own, It was Goku's.

The "Enjoy Browning" attack wasn't Majin Buu's own, It was Vegeta's.

The Special Beam Cannon wasn't Majin Buu's own, It was Piccolo's.

The Super Kamikaze Ghost attack wasn't Majin Buu's own, it was Gotenks'.

And the Instant Transmission wasn't Majin Buu's own, it was Kibito Kai's.

What kind of logic is THAT? It isn't logic. It's fanboyism and bias out the ass, and I don't do that here. Regardless of the method, effects of Kirby and Buu's copy abilities are the same.

Kirby's Skills and techniques are of the large variety. He can Slide Kick, Float, Inhale, Star spit, Air Bullet, and Guard, and that is just Kirby in his base form. That is 6.

Kirby has 59 known copy abilities, 58 removing Smash Kirby. adding the anime-only copy abilities, and the anime IS canon, due the lore being used in other games. (Esargoon being a boss in Mass Attack, Meta Knight's sword name came from the anime) number being 4 adds to 63. adding Kirby's Super Abilites, like Ultra Sword (P.S. Boomstick was wrong, Sword Kirby's sword growing ability does NOT turn him into Ultra Sword, ONLY when he inhale an enemy called Super Blade Knight.)the number being 5, adds to this:

63+5=68. And THAT is NOT adding ANY Fusion copy abilities like in Kirby 64/Crystal Shards. but since it IS canon, adding Kirby's fusion copy abilities would add to 29. 29+68=97. And Finally, @Roaring Thunder Project, Screwattack did NOT overexaggerate Kirby's inhale ability. The reason Kirby swallowed Buu's Planet Burst was because He used HYPERNOVA Kirby, an ability which increases Kirby's inhale tenfolds, capable of devouring worlds.

Speaking of a bios towards attack, @Rhymestyle, Duct4tape, and Sidekicks claim that Majin Buu's Chocolate Beam, If it hit Kirby, would be instant kill. REALLY?!?! Heck, No. three reasons

1. The Chocolate Beam attack is REFLECTABLE (Evil Buu sending it back against Majin Buu).

2. The Chocolate Beam attack is DOGDEABLE (Kid Buu dogding against Majin Buu).

3. The Chocolate Beam attack is NOT a Instant kill attack. ( Buu could turn Kirby into chocolate but that wouldn’t necessarily be enough to put Kirby down, after all, Kirby is no stranger to transformation such as when he got turn into yarn, and certain characters like Vegito could still move and even fight after being turn into candy.) Kirby could still move and fight EVEN turned into Chocolate, or a Jawbreaker.

4. This is proof Majin Buu CAN be hurt by his own attacks. (Kirby hitting Buu with HIS Planet Burst attack).

All in all, since I said Canon Material ONLY, Kirby's skills and techniques exceeds, leaps, and bounds past Majin Buu.

SKILL/TECHNIQUE goes to Kirby!

Next is Experience!

EXPERIENCE Key word being EXPERIENCE!!!

Majin Buu has been around since the dawn of time and has an unprecedented amount of combat experience... or does he? So far, his experience seems to have consisted in going from one planet to another, blowing it up, and proceed to the next planet without encountering any worthy resistance. In fact, the only ones to have challenge Majin Buu are the Z-fighters and the Kais. He lost his battle against the Z-fighters and failed to kill every Kais. Which means that Big Buu doesn't exactly have the same amount of experience as Kid Buu, and he was sealed in a ball for thousands of years. After being freed by Babidi, he almost didn't take a break from intense fights since then.


Mr.Buu effortlessly defeated both Gohan and Eastern Supreme Kai at the same time, turned Dabura into a cookie after an easy battle, crushed Majin Vegeta (Vegeta under the control of Babidi) in no time, rivaled with SSJ3 Goku in power, killed Babidi in one punch, defeated Gotenks, eliminated 4/5 of the Earth's population by busting a considerable number of cities, and destroyed the Earth's military in one shot.

After expelling the evil outside him, Mr.Buu lost most of his power, thus losing to Evil Buu and Kid Buu, who were simply stronger versions of himself. (Super buu retains the experience of fighting the kais, he also fought against Gotenks, Piccolo, Gohan and Vegeto) (Kid buu fought against the kais, Goku, Vegeta and fat Buu).


Nevertheless, Mr.Buu defeated many powerful DBZ entities, he was almost unstoppable, and if Mr.Satan didn't step in to calm Buu and convince him that killing is bad... uh... he was going to be stopped by Vegito or the Spirit bomb anyway but his childish personality will only make foes underestimate him, and they won't understand anything after being suddenly turned to chocolate.

Kirby been in multiple adventures which challenged him. Just look at the amount of games he has been in. Kirby has fought several high powered beings which challenged him. Kirby saved his planet and the entire universe a good number of times. He defeated several powerhouses, galactic space manipulators, undead dark entities, and multi-planetary threats. He blew up a good portion of the moon after destroying "Nightmare", killed "Magolor" despite the latter having the dimensional master crown, defeated "Queen Sectonia" with her Dreamstalk while she was covering the planet, sent the tricky yet powerful "Marx" into a planet sized comet with enough force to blew it up, killed the evil entity "Dark mind", bested the sorceress "Drawcia" at her own game, eliminated "Necrodeus" despite being weakened, destroyed the entire family of Dark matters single handily : "Dark matter", "Zero", "Zero 2", and "Dark Nebula", they are all bloody (Yes, they are literally full of tons of blood) dark creatures that are traveling through the universe looking for new planets to destroy. Most of Kirby's biggest enemies don't end when killed, they always recover from dead in their stronger zombified form, such as Marx soul, Magolor soul, Sectonia soul, or Drawcia soul and engage Kirby in a second duel to the death, only for the pink puff to erase them all from existence... for good.
Kirby also bested Meta-Knight, King Dedede, dimensional monsters (Grand doomer), and destroyed various types of aircrafts, tanks, futuristic robots and high tech weaponry, such as Metal General, Kabula and even the entire Halberd, on his own.

Kirby have much more fighting experience than he seems, regularly killing almost any kind of enemy imaginable. With his amazing feats, Kirby can easily take down any other possible opponent for him in a DB.
Sorry to say, Experience means the knowledge or mastery of an event or subject gained through involvement in or exposure to it. And that fits Kirby to a T. Buu may have lived for Millions years longer than Kirby, but Buu spent a majority of said years doing the exact same thing, Going from one planet to another, blowing it up, and proceed to the next planet without encountering any worthy resistance.

To put this in perspective, who is the most experienced player? The one who farmed in the starting zone to reach max level in a video game but can't beat the final boss, or the one who actually tried, testing his skills and developing strategies and actually wins against the final boss? This is a matter of quantity vs quality.


EXPERIENCE goes to Kirby!

And finally, Durability!

DURABILITY

Screwattack mentioned that Kirby can take a Planet sized explosion. Kinda true, but not to the magnitude of Kid Buu's Planet Burst, if anything, it looked like the explosion just knocked Kirby out of planet Popstar. But his durability is NO laughing matter.

Survived the explosion of a large part of the HalberdEffortlessly and regularly survives large DBZ beams from different bosses (Magolor, Sectonia, Marx...) through his games. Survived an enormous explosion visible from space after the death of the enemy in "Triple deluxe", his greatest durability feat by far, the explosion covered almost the entire surface of the planet.

But Majin Buu's durability exceeds Kirby's due to his broken regeneration ability.Yes, the same explosion did turn Buu into mush, but his regeneration is permanent. The only times it took Buu a notable amount of times to heal was when his body got completely destroyed. But the way Kirby beat Buu by shooting his Planet Burst attack and comparing it to him getting destroyed by Goku's Spirit Bomb is something else.

1. @TheSaiyan17 mentioned how Buu was tanking Goku's Spirit Bomb. Then Dende wishing on the Dragon Balls to recover Goku's health to fully waste Majin Buu is ALL true, but so is this. Buu is actually quite stupid, often underestimating his opponents, toying with them, Flat-out creates openings for his enemies by dancing in mid-fight, Did not destroy the Kais's planet when he had plenty of chances to do so, forgot about his teleportation technique when he was being attacked by the spirit bomb. Obviously, he was unaware about Goku getting a recovery boost and was way into deep into the attack. He was screwed anyway.
2. When was the last time any of you seen Majin Buu take an attack of that caliber, like his Planet Burst, at the speed Kirby sent it back? Never!

3. Maybe DBZ fanboys claim that Majin Buu could recover from being sent into the sun....uh...No he can't. For this final statement we will be using Science.

Facts about the Sun:







  • the mass of the Sun is 333, 000 times bigger than the Earth’s mass
  • the mass of the Sun is 1,048 times more than the mass of planet Jupiter
  • the mass of the Sun is 3,498 times bigger than the mass of the planet Saturn
  • the mass of the Sun composes about 99.8% of the mass of the entire Solar System
  •  Atmosphere of the Sun: http://science.howstuffworks.com/sun4.htm

  • Safe to say the smoke from Buu when he hit the sun. would easily evaporate from the Intense heat of the Sun's atomsphere. Not to mention, who is to say the attack sent Buu into the Sun's core. It could happen. Regardless, Majin Buu wins in Durability.

    DURABILITY goes to Majin Buu!


    That's it.




    SPEED
    kirby
    STRENGTH
    kirby
    KI/ENERGY MANIPULATION
    majin buu
    SKILL/TECHNIQUE
                                                          kirby
                                                       EXPERIENCE
                                                      kirby
    DURABILITY
    majin buu




    THE WINNER IS KIRBY!!!



    In the end, Screwattack was Right after all. Kirby would win in a Death Battle. So it's understandable that the DBZ fanboys would make videos contradicting themselves. Doing research for both characters is a REAL brain-racker, like I think it was for Screwattack, and these guys did an mazing job. And if ANY of you whiny DBZ fanboys have a problem with what I wrote, please try to refute with EVIDENCE and FACTS.


    I understand that many kids, like myself, grew up watching Dragonball Z and believing that every character whose name WASN'T Yamcha was the strongest character in all of pop culture and that if you put anyone else in front of them, they would TOTALLY destroy them, but as we grow up and have better understanding of OTHER series outside of DBZ, we find out that this belief wasn't at that true. So it understandable that many people who see characters from DBZ to that degree get matched up or get outclassed in fantasy Vs. battles by characters from other animes or comic books, some people will totally disagree.....to a degree.


    But, this is pathetic and one-sided like crazy. These whiny videos prove my point. I could see them all as a rebuttal video, but most, if not all of them do nothing but completely hypes up one side (in this case, Majin Buu) while completely crapping, or completely ignoring the other side (Kirby) especially when all these videos HATE being labeled as the pathetic rantings of a "Butt-hurt" DBZ fanboy, yet said videos end up coming of as just that. Even when most of the video bloggers confirmed that, in this case, they say that they know EVERYTHING about Majin Buu's lore from watching tons of DBZ material out there with him in it, and also confirming that they don't know squat about Kirby expect from playing 1-2 of his games and fighting him in Super Smash Bros. It's really sad.


    Also, I'm very sure that the gang at Screwattack ISN'T bias against Dragonball Z (except Evil Craig hahaha.) for Two obvious reasons.

    1. In their Love and Hate series, they did reasons We love Dragonball Z!

    2. In Death Battle, The VERY first character from DBZ they used WON that Death Battle...Vegeta. But of course, the DBZ fanboys don't remember that when falsely claiming Screwattack hates DBZ and anime, and they wouldn't, for good reason, too. Because....come on, Shadow the Hedgehog? Waste of Vegeta's talents.

    At the end of it all, It's just for ENTERTAINMENT purposes ONLY. I only did this because stupid people like the ignorant turds, sidekicks912, piss me out thinking that fanboyism = Valid argument, when in fact it really isn't.

    Kirby wins, Screwattack was right. END OF STORY.

    Like I said, if ANY of you whiny DBZ fanboys have a problem with what I wrote, please try to refute with EVIDENCE and FACTS...otherwise....

    Go Fuck Yourselves...

    See you humans later.

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    2. I agree with you completely and was on Kirby's side for most of the time. The reason I say "most of the time" was because when I first saw the preview, I immediately thought it was a stomp in favor of Buu, but, as I actually began to gain more knowledge on Kirby, I found that it actually was a complete stomp... in favor of Kirby. I'll add on to some of your points.

      Strength: Without even comparing Shiver Star to Pop Star, the fact that Ado & Adeline, two human girls, were able to walk on Pop Star without floating in midair for a bit or without being flattened proves that Pop Star has the same gravity hence, same mass as the Earth. Also, considering the planet is able to sustain water and life itself means that the planet has to be the same size; have the same mass, density, and gravity as the Earth. Also, Kirby completely destroyed the planet in the manga, which can be used to accurately portray feats as I will explain later.

      Durability: Since Kirby doesn't have an established canon, the manga and anime can be used when referring to a feat. Having said that, in the manga, Kirby is seen destroying planet Pop Star through pure physical strength, surviving the resulting explosion without a scratch.

      Speed: Even without the Warp Star, Kirby is shown to be able to regularly contend with, and even beat foes whom move at FTL speeds. Meta Knight is a prominent example of this, as he can be seen traveling from planet to planet within seconds.

      Skill: Kirby can skillfully use foes copied abilities to a level of complete mastery, and can even create new ways to utilize and use the copied abilities

      And as for Buu, his regeneration eventually weakens after having to continually reform over and over again and can be overpowered by superior physical strength, as evidenced by the fact that it took him a while to regenerate a hole after fighting with Vegito for a while, and when Kid Buu put Fat Buu in a near-death situation by utterly destroying the latter through physical strength alone. So, his durability isn't really something to brag about.

      Other then that, you did a superb job and I hope I proved at least somewhat helpful.

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    3. I agree with you completely and was on Kirby's side for most of the time. The reason I say "most of the time" was because when I first saw the preview, I immediately thought it was a stomp in favor of Buu, but, as I actually began to gain more knowledge on Kirby, I found that it actually was a complete stomp... in favor of Kirby. I'll add on to some of your points.

      Strength: Without even comparing Shiver Star to Pop Star, the fact that Ado & Adeline, two human girls, were able to walk on Pop Star without floating in midair for a bit or without being flattened proves that Pop Star has the same gravity hence, same mass as the Earth. Also, considering the planet is able to sustain water and life itself means that the planet has to be the same size; have the same mass, density, and gravity as the Earth. Also, Kirby completely destroyed the planet in the manga, which can be used to accurately portray feats as I will explain later.

      Durability: Since Kirby doesn't have an established canon, the manga and anime can be used when referring to a feat. Having said that, in the manga, Kirby is seen destroying planet Pop Star through pure physical strength, surviving the resulting explosion without a scratch.

      Speed: Even without the Warp Star, Kirby is shown to be able to regularly contend with, and even beat foes whom move at FTL speeds. Meta Knight is a prominent example of this, as he can be seen traveling from planet to planet within seconds.

      Skill: Kirby can skillfully use foes copied abilities to a level of complete mastery, and can even create new ways to utilize and use the copied abilities

      And as for Buu, his regeneration eventually weakens after having to continually reform over and over again and can be overpowered by superior physical strength, as evidenced by the fact that it took him a while to regenerate a hole after fighting with Vegito for a while, and when Kid Buu put Fat Buu in a near-death situation by utterly destroying the latter through physical strength alone. So, his durability isn't really something to brag about.

      Other then that, you did a superb job and I hope I proved at least somewhat helpful.

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      1. STRENGTH
        - Even if those two mini-games were canon, Fighter Kirby could unleash only 201 Mt.; Pop Star, Mirror World and the other planets in the Kirbyverse are island-sized.
        -- Shiver Star looking like Earth doesn’t mean it’s just as big; it’s not tilted at all, rotates from east to west, and its moon orbits it in retrograde motion and doesn’t rotate.
        -- Surface gravity depends on the relationship between mass and radius.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_gravity#Mass,_radius_and_surface_gravity
        -- Pop Star is called a small planet in the instruction manuals of Dream Land (“地球からずっとずっと遠く離れた小さな星の、”), Adventure (“地球から遠く離れた小さな星の小さな国”) and Dream Land 3 (“小さいけれども、平和な星”).
        -- With 8 inches being a reference, objects are smaller in the Kirbyverse.
        - The 4-koma magazine series are gag ones, each based on a game; and that particular 4-koma, from the series based on Super Star, is a parody of Megaton Punch.

        DURABILITY
        The Kirby franchise has two continuities, that of the games and that of the anime.

        SPEED
        - Kirby defeating the villains means he surpasses their perception and reaction speeds, but he can’t match their travel speeds without Warp Stars, like when he chases Nightmare or Dark Mind. This means they use high speed only when traveling long distances and performing other actions like painting or knitting, which is very common in video games.
        - The villains can’t even travel FTL; the Kirbyverse’s settings are very small.
        -- As seen in the summons cutscene, Nova is actually small room-sized and…
        http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BiggerOnTheInside
        With this being a reference, and as seen in the opening of Dream Land 3 and a few cutscenes of The Crystal Shards, the planets are big room-sized, and their suns and moons are small-room sized.
        -- The planets are only meters away to each other; the distance Nova travels from its summon point to Pop Star is relative to those the sun and moon travel when fighting.
        -- Characters can’t fly past stars, much less galaxies, just a little slower than they fly past much closer objects like meteoroids; so, those are…
        http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceFlecks

        It doesn’t matter if Buu’s regeneration has limits; even 21 Budokai Krillin can defeat Kirby.

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      2. Errr you did read the blog right?

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      3. I heavily disagree here with the blog and the episode itself. Aside from having better arsenal and magic/spells, Majin Boo pretty much stomps Kirby and the rest of the kirbyverse with ease. None of them have ever come close to the stats, power, and forms/techniques the DBverse has going for them.

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    4. I have a question. What non-canon game did Kirby actually destroy a planet? I don't remember him actually doing that in Smash Bros.

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    5. Also, could you show where you got your research please?

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      1. It was from the manga, and the whole planet explosion thing. Even if Buu hit Kirby with the planet burst attack, while the pop star explosion from the game,not the manga, wasn't to the dergree it was mabye a 3 while planet burst was a 5 if kirby was able to take that explosion without any damage whatsoever (except for mabye a heart attack,omg look at his eyes at the beginning of that scene!) then planet burst would hurt him yes, but only to a certain dergree. like buu kirby has a body that is magic in nature. we find out throughout the games, tv show/anime, and manga kirby has no internal organs or teeth. his "heart" that is a star isnt his literal heart but more so the manifestation of kirby's soul. so even if buu were to hit him hpkirby may be burnt but that's pretty muck the extent of it.

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    7. I'm the same person fyi it's aging I'm like 2 different ppl so I'm the one who said that stuff about explosions

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    8. I'm so glad we all agree. While DBZ characters are some of the mightiest characters in fiction, we can't forget Kirby's ridiculous feats.

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    9. I'm so glad we all agree. While DBZ characters are some of the mightiest characters in fiction, we can't forget Kirby's ridiculous feats.

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    10. SPEED
      - Kirby running on water in Ep. 4 is an outlier; in the rest of the series, he runs just as fast as human level characters.
      - It’s clear that Raditz is FTL, as Piccolo’s beam he dodges is comparable to the later one reaching the moon in seconds.
      - It doesn’t matter why Buu can beat SS3 Goku; it’s clear that he’s MFTL, as Cell can fly to the other planets of the universe with relative ease.
      http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Chapter-365?id=260954#2
      http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Chapter-369?id=260958#13
      - Kirby doesn’t have to dodge obstacles while riding the Warp Star fast; it can smash them, as seen in the Level 2 of Dream Land, the Levels 2 and 3 of Dyna Blade in Super Star, and the Level 6-1 of Triple Deluxe; but he’s easily shot off it by Nightmare and the Halberd’s first laser.
      - The “warp-speed” description is a mistranslation.
      http://ja.kirby.wikia.com/wiki/ワープスター
      - Kirby crashes the Warp Star and finds another one, which means there are many of them; his heart being a star doesn’t mean he creates them; and he doing so in Dream Land 3 is an outlier, as there are situations in which they’re useful and he doesn’t do so.

      STRENGTH
      - The game mechanics of two mini-games can’t weight more than those of all main modes.
      - That sun is less than 1 km away from Pop Star, and tiny, as seen in the same Ep. 11 and Ep. 80; and Cook Kirby propels his pan constantly and turns it to other directions, like in Eps. 34 (33 in the US) and 59.
      - The “40 tons” statement is wrong; Goku can push hundreds of tons even before entering the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.
      http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Chapter-032?id=260617#7

      ENERGY MANIPULATION
      - The Star Rod doesn’t blow up that portion of the moon, as its shots never hit the surface; and neither does Nightmare’s explosion, as it occurs much before; so, the portion of the moon blowing up is absurd.
      - The “blow up the planet ten times” statement is a mistranslation.
      http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Dragon-Ball-509-?id=249784#8
      Also, Super Perfect Cell is solar system level; the difference between Piccolo Daimao’s city level and 23 Budokai Piccolo’s island level is smaller than that between the latter and Raditz Saga Piccolo’s moon level, which means power increase is exponential.

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    11. SKILL/TECHNIQUE
      - Abilities Buu takes from others aren’t his own, but he learns them and never loses them; unlike Kirby, who doesn’t learn Copy Abilities and may lose them if he’s hit.
      - The anime having elements used in the games doesn’t make it canon.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_(fiction)#Canonicity
      “One example of a non-canonical element that later became canonical in the Star Trek universe was the name “Tiberius” becoming the official middle name of Enterprise captain James T. Kirk.”
      - Hypernova Kirby can’t devour worlds; his biggest feat is inhaling Sectonia’s final beam, which is barely three times stronger than her three previous ones directly hitting the surface and not damaging it.
      - Even if Kirby could move after being turned into candy, he wouldn’t have either his mouth to even inhale or inflate, his feet to jump or slide, or his hands to guard.

      EXPERIENCE
      - Kirby defeats villains that threaten planets with magic/reality warping, not physical power… And no, the latter being drained by the former is an irrelevant detail in many works, especially children-oriented ones.
      - Sectonia doesn’t have her power increased when merged with the grown Dreamstalk; when she separates from it, as Soul of Sectonia, she retains the same power.
      - Marx isn’t thrown by Kirby, but stops and flashes for an instant, and flies out of control; and he doesn’t blow up Nova by hitting it on a small area either, but hits it on the uncovered and damaged core.
      - Necrodeus being defeated, by Kirbys with punches ten times weaker than those of the whole Kirby, instead of the whole Kirby with even Star Bullets, is an outlier.

      DURABILITY
      - The planet-sized explosion is actually a flash and the vines disintegrate into sparkling stars; so, Kirby is sent flying by a pushing force instead of a destructive one.
      - Either Kirby survives non-physical hazards due to his body composition, or the Halberd’s bridge cutscene isn’t to be taken seriously. Beams aren’t strong due to their size, and those ones are big compared to 8 inches.
      - Buu can’t be torn apart by a planet’s explosion; he tanks stronger attacks. What tears him apart is actually that of his Planet Burst, which SS2 Goku and Vegeta can’t deflect.
      - Kirby may get distracted easily, like when Magolor shoots him and the others off the Landias, and when Sectonia grabs him with her vine.
      - Even if Kirby could inhale the Planet Burst and exhale it faster, the effort it would cost Buu to take it shouldn’t be much higher than that it costs him to build it.
      - If the sun can kill Buu, then it can kill Kirby too.

      It’d be a good idea to check the response to belin vandergrift as well.

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      1. Always nice to find more people who use basic logic for this topic.

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      2. Agree with unknown. Kirby gets stomped by Majin Boo pretty easily here.

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    12. Anything In the cartoon, comic or Smash Bros games is a moot point because all of that has their own individual continuity inconsistent with the original games making them non canon.
      At the end of Kirby's Adventure we don’t even see what destroys that portion of the moon or even know how big it is, just Kirby flying away from it after it happens. And Nightmare only teleported short distances in the fight before that, that's not a speed feat, same thing with Dark Mind.
      The megaton punch is a minigame only, you know, features in a game that contribute nothing to the story and that typically show inconsistencies with the canon. He's never shown strength like that during any of his canon adventures, where he has to fall as stone Kirby just to break large rocks. And if he really was doing that much damage, it’s kinda odd that the cracks always completely disappear by the next round. Planetary strength wank debunked.
      With the warp star, the boss levels that have fast moving backgrounds are using the same trick as with other boss levels where the backgrounds still move even when Kirby just stands there. His attack and reaction time and overall movement are still his average detectable speed when he’s riding the warp star, which has been shot down by missiles and still moves at a pace we can easily detect with the naked eye when going to other worlds that are clearly just a few miles away from each other, same with Meta Knight, which is itself enough to debunk any claims of moving light speed or above. Not the same thing as going light speed to a world millions of miles away; a speed we can't even detect, thus refuting that ftl wank. The warp star is outside help anyway, since in most games he can't summon it whenever he wants it, he has to find it. Way to cherry pick that bit.
      His suction range is a few feet at best with slow suction power, making him unable to suck in Buu, who's fast enough to make it seem like he's teleporting and has resisted being moved by high speed winds strong enough to cut his face. Kirby can't suck in anyone as strong as the mid bosses he's faced, none of which have demonstrated power even close to a neighborhood wide scale, until they're completely depowered. Nor has he ever in any form deflected or blocked anything up to that scale. Kirby with hyper nova, which can only be attained by miracle fruit which only appears in specific locations, can only suck up things up to four times his size and only triples his initially very short suction range. He can only take in the abilities of one person or item at a time, and only gets their most basic abilities, not all of them and has to suck up the person or item to get any abilities. He can't suck up attacks unless in hypernova, which is outside help needing the miracle fruit. He's never shown to be able to store multiple abilities inside himself, he absorbs one thing and that's it until he loses it and has to find another power.

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      1. I Completely disagree, I understand kirby is not fast, but you are WAY Underestimating Kirby Powers and Durability, as even if those minigames, mangas, or anime are not cannon, they can be altered timeline like a altered timeline where galagtic knight fighting kirby which to my understanding Does not happen in the main cannoned timeline, but since there is a altered timeline using the same kirby, kirby is able to take on reality warping attack in the altered timeline and beat em, and thats Ignoring Kirby feat of able to take on blackholes, and Squaks squad Says "Your a idiot" because it shows that kirby can store thing just like the Anime, just because the Anime is non-cannon therefore not part of the timeline doesn't mean its completely irrelevent, because the anime showed the DDD with a army of Waddle Dees, and in the new game, it tooks heavy inspiration from it like the penguin having a force of waddle dee and nightmare looking like his anime, so they can be considered into the account and other things showing base kirby. And is another thing that could be limiting Kirby, and thats the game itself (which may sound insane but) that happened with another game, and thats with Kratos game. In that he feels real tough but weak, but the creator Blantandly said (Correct me if i'm wrong) that he is MUCH More powerful then the game let you on to believe and would easily kill things but he doesn't because it doesn't make for a fun game. so it can apply to Kirby as well as clearly some thing are much weaker then kirby but still hurt kirby (Albiet by a small bit) because its a game mechanic in the game while other Much more powerful like a blackhole does a decent damage to kirby, which shows that kirby is limited. and for the warpstar https://youtu.be/Aq1gAL6x4MI?t=214 . but I believe I made my point here

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      2. If it’s a different media than what the character was created in and it’s inconsistent with the original, it can’t be canon. It’s not complicated to understand. Incorporating things from other media doesn’t make the stuff that wasn’t incorporated canon too. Kirbys never escaped black holes. All suction portals he’s escaped he does so by simply running or swimming fast, because their range of suction is significantly less than what a black hole is capable of. A lot of them immediately send him back too. I was never informed about Kirby being able to store multiple powers in squeak squad, but that’s an outlier. Most games he can’t do that, so the whole series says “You’re an idiot” to people who use your arguments, not mine. I don’t get this trend with Kirby fans wanting to miss interpret what’s clearly on screen in Kirby games to greatly exaggerate him. Using gameplay mechanics to excuse away his limits is a particularly popular argument forKirby fanatics, ignoring the fact that only cutscenes in games showing the character do something greater can canonically determine what limits are just gameplay mechanics or not.

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    13. At the end of Triple Deluxe the blast of air Kirby fires is barely wider than himself, and the vines around the planet disappear as a result of Sectonia dying, not Kirby’s destructive output from the blast that didn't even touch the vines, which vanished not exploded (how the hell do you mistake things glowing and disintegrating into particles as an explosion to begin with), which is why the planet took no damage.
      As for some other claims people have made that were not used in that death battle; It’s obvious that Nova is not planet size, because from just a few feet away from Kirby and Marx he’s clearly only about 4 times their size. Nova only appears that big relative to the worlds when seen on the map, which if were taking that scaling seriously, have now confirmed that Kirby and the warp star are also planet size, being that they're both just half his size on the map. The dimension scaling in Kirby fluctuates a lot.
      Nothing Marx Soul did was even a mountain range destroying scope of power, and Kirby even less so, showing that Marx’s durability is nothing special, as for most final bosses in Kirby.
      A black suction portal that can be outrun by a 5 mph sprint and that immediately sends you back to the same place is not the same thing as a black hole, that's powerful enough to suck in even light. Neither is a black swirl in a boss level that doesn't even forcibly suck anything in, which is exactly why Kirby can still never move faster than a human except with the jet and ninja forms. And in one of the cutscenes, Marx flies into nova at steady enough pace to see him clearly in just a few seconds, still looking only about 4 times Marx’s size, which is especially evident by the size of the gears in relation to Marx after Nova gets blown up. There's never any scene indicating that Kirby threw Marx into Nova, only that his wings became dysfunctional from the boss fight.

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      1. You forget that game mechanics are a thing. Of course, Kirby doesn't appear to be moving at light speed in the games. And why not? Because no one would be able to control him. It'd be a nightmare at best to be able to play his games. Does that mean that he's moving slower than light? Not necessarily. We'd have to look at things that aren't being controlled directly by the player to verify. And if they made him infinitely strong during the main game... Where would the challenge be? The platforming? Kirby can fly. The combat? Kirby would be the equivalent of One Punch Man. The puzzles? Kirby can just punch through the level to the prize. A time limit? Kirby can just zip to the end straight through any obstacles The stuff that requires stone Kirby is game mechanics, as is the warp star only being at certain places. AND, the warp star can be called by Kirby, even in the games. Amazing Mirror? Crystal Shards? As such, we have to look at whatever measurements we can get. And Kirby DOES have the ability to store copy abilities and items in the games even, and have access to them. Squeak Squad? SuperStar? Triple Deluxe? Planet Robobot?
        As for Hypernova, that's, again, gameplay mechanics. Of course, you can't just suck up the level. That'd remove all the challenge of Hypernova and would destroy the game as a whole. So, we have to go by sources that isn't game mechanics or something that is done to allow the audience to keep up with what's going on in the game in order to determine Kirby's strength, speed, durability, and destructive capabilities. Because, like you say, we'd never be able to keep up if he moved at light speed on screen, and like what I've said, we'd have a terrible game if he could just blaze through without a single issue.
        We have to look at the following things. In-game text. In canon statistics and displayed feats. Feats in other canon sources, including the anime and manga, and so on. Now, I'll stop here as I'm not a complete expert on everything Kirby (I haven't played every game all the way through, my memory is foggy on the anime, and I never even knew that Kirby had a manga.) But, a lot of gripes you are having can easily be explained with one of two things. One: Game Mechanics. They need to create obstacles for the player to overcome and they need to allow the player/audience to be able to track what's going on in order for them to follow.
        Two: Kirby is holding back in most situations. Unlike Buu, Kirby is a defender. He doesn't seek the destruction of his home and seeks to defend it from other would-be planet destroyers. Therefore, he could easily be holding back considerably to make sure that his home isn't destroyed. After all, he does have a home there.

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      2. I Really agree here, and for the Novas, Look at Planet Robobot, when kirby got into the mech and took meta-knight ship, kirby attacked the Corrupted Machine and damaged it badly to force it to connect to the Hals-Space base, and as you destroy the shell, it shows what may very well be a Nova (If not ANOTHER Nova if the EX has to say anything about it) and clearly is So much bigger then the ship, and if you don't believe me, lets go to the nova where marxs betrayed you and the nova was going to destroy popstar. It goes in to destroy popstar, but the sun and moon actually regonized and halted it right in front of the planet, and sure enough its insanely big comparable to popstar, and although kirby seems big in the minimap is nonaccurate, and this "Kirby is planet size" thing keeps going to Star Allies, Which Earlier shows that kirby is not even noticable from stellar view of popstar, which means that kirby is big to be seen on the Screen, and the Cannon height is 8 Inch which I earlier was supprised (I believe) to learn because I thought it was something as big as people because of problably of the bomber Jr and fighter Joe looking human.

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      4. Eragon, using gameplay mechanics to explain away limits is just an excuse. Kirby has never shown greater power than in gameplay without a special item to aid him. He never shows greater power in cutscenes, which would be the only way to show accurate discrepancies with gameplay and canon ability. That’s an overused and intellectually lazy argument. You can use that argument for literally any game character to greatly exaggerate their abilities. The warp star being called by Kirby is rare and so is an outlier. Every other game besides your examples he has to find it first. That’s like arguing Sephiroth can create supernovas whenever he wants because he did it in a transformation that requires special conditions. I played Triple Deluxe and don’t remember Kirby being able to store more than one power at a time. My point about the warp star applies to power storage too.

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    14. I don't think Kirby beating Majin Boo was the main problem here (although it is partly that), it's the obvious fact the Death Battle used non canon feats and statements to greatly exaggerate Kirby's capabilities. Had they not done that, this fight would've likely been very different.

      That being said, Majin Boo easily stomps not only Kirby, but also the Kirbyverse as well. No Kirby character has ever gone beyond Galaxy level as far as I'm concerned, and he doesn't have the stats, power, and techniques needed to match up to Majin Boo. Yeah Kirby has better arsenal and magic, but that's helping him much here, espically since Majin Boo can easily avoid and counter them.

      Overall, this blog has multiple issues and problems for his reasonings on defending this Death Battle. Please either acknowledge this or redo this blog so you get it right next time. No matter what you or others might think, Death Battle was wrong and Majin Boo should've wrong this right.

      Or in more insulting words given your rather bad attitude, go home Kirby cuck your drunk as always.

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